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Post by irishconfederate on Apr 30, 2017 14:34:09 GMT
There have been prominent people of Ulster British origin who have worked publicly for a united Ireland, I am thinking of John Robb and Brian Caul. I think the onus is on both us, the Irish and the Ulster British, to table the best of possible terms for a common citizenship in an all-Ireland polity. Regardless of whether the possibility of it is achievable or desired, I think it is an incredibly symbolic and generous action for both peoples if some of us could agree on what a common citizenship would look and feel like. What sort of all-Ireland state would help the Ulster British feel at home in? What's the best offer both of these peoples could propose?
'For the first time in my recollection, Catholic and Protestant, Unionist and Nationalist, landlord and tenant, priest and parson, all work hand in hand in the interest of Ireland's life and intellectuality.' Douglas Hyde
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Post by Young Ireland on May 2, 2017 21:23:34 GMT
There have been prominent people of Ulster British origin who have worked publicly for a united Ireland, I am thinking of John Robb and Brian Caul. I think the onus is on both us, the Irish and the Ulster British, to table the best of possible terms for a common citizenship in an all-Ireland polity. Regardless of whether the possibility of it is achievable or desired, I think it is an incredibly symbolic and generous action for both peoples if some of us could agree on what a common citizenship would look and feel like. What sort of all-Ireland state would help the Ulster British feel at home in? What's the best offer both of these peoples could propose?
'For the first time in my recollection, Catholic and Protestant, Unionist and Nationalist, landlord and tenant, priest and parson, all work hand in hand in the interest of Ireland's life and intellectuality.' Douglas Hyde
I would personally use an adapted version of the Four provinces motif as the national flag, and would use Ireland's Call as the national anthem. |
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Post by Assisi on May 9, 2017 17:58:29 GMT
By and large the Ulster British are conservative in nature and politics, although, like everywhere else, the younger generation who attend university will probably end up more liberal. There is more in common between Unionists and Nationalists than you think, belief in God, a tradition of farming and rural activity, some sports such as Rugby, a Gaelic background. I would tend to break down the Unionist population into 3 main social categories. The rural and religious Northern Ireland of small to medium provincial towns, those in large urban housing estates in Belfast and some of the bigger towns, and finally the more affluent and liberal North Down types. To answer your question I think that the Ulster British would be more at home in a mildly conservative country where they they could participate in the general culture but also could be allowed to express their own distinct culture unobstructed (Ulster Scots culture, Orange Order, Cricket, liking for Royalty etc). A federal entity (or entities) covering what is now N.Ireland which had substantial amount of devolved powers would be necessary.
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Post by assisi on Feb 20, 2018 19:26:04 GMT
Considering the current prolonged impasse at Stormont over an Irish Language act and probably other issues, there is reason enough to assert that the current Stormont set up isn't functioning properly. The Nationalist v Unionist set up has Sinn Fein and DUP scoring points off each other. If one demands something Irish leaning, the other wants to balance it out with legislation that is equally British leaning, and vice versa, even if the things they fight over are not urgent.
I would think that that type of model is not desirable. Perhaps a big step to bringing in the Unionists to a united Ireland would be the establishment of an all Ireland centre right conservative party that both Unionist and Nationalists (Protestants and Catholics) could adhere to, one that could be sympathetic to the Unionists British origins within a United Ireland. The enemy is no longer Catholic v Protestant, but tradition v globalism.
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